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Betty Scott - Friday, 28 August 2015 15:41

Hi Elaine

Have you looked for your great grandfather in the 1901 census? Or an earlier census? As that would give his address. This weekend it is free to search the UK records on Ancestry.


denise ronald - Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:42

hope you can help me again .looking for the burial ground of john ronald and his wife sarah wallace .both died in glasgow. john ronald death 28/5/1944  cathcart  glasgow  age 71   sarah wallace died in 1968 glasgow, glasgow city lanark age 91yrs. please can someone tell me to find  where people are buried , i don`t live in scotland . thanks again denise.

Elaine BURT - Wednesday, 26 August 2015 19:46

Hi, I'd be grateful if anyone could help me. My great grandfather John Burt who died in 1905 was listed as a Hotel Keeper in Kirkaldy. Would anyone know what hotels were in the area at this time. Thank you.


Harry D. Watson - Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:53

I thought it would be worth checking the 1901 census of Kirkcaldy to see if John Burt was then living in the hotel he ran. But the only two adult males of that name then living in Kirkcaldy were a 67-year-old labourer and a 34-year-old potter. Do you know where your John Burt was living in 1901? 

When I worked in Fife County Library HQ in Kirkcaldy in 1968-69 one of our frequent visitors was a Mr. Burt who ran a second-hand bookshop.


Marilyn DENTON - Sunday, 23 August 2015 16:21

Hi all, I have had great results searching for records for my Fleming ancestors in Fife, but I am stuck trying to find the following graves. Any help, hint or tips would be greatly appreciated. We are planning an extended family legacy trip in fall 2016 and would like to visit these gravesites.

Janet Barnard Forbes Fleming (my gg grandmother), born January 11, 1840 St. Andrews/St. Leonards. Parents: John Forbes and Margaret Bigg. Died July 29, 1923, Muirhead Farm, Kettle. Married David Fleming December 13, 1872 in SA/SL.  She was living with her oldest child, Margaret (Maggie) Fleming Pullar in Kettle at the time of her death.

David Fleming (husband of Janet), born abt. 1844 Carnbee. Parents: Coline Fleemingstone (Colin Flemingston/Fleming) and Charlotte Mackie. Died February 7, 1925 Thornton/Markinch. 

Coline Fleemingstone (father of David), born July 19, 1801 Carnbee. Parents: William Fleemingstone and Anne Christie. Married Charlotte Mackie, 1830 Carnbee/Cameron. Died March 18, 1883 West Park, Cameron.

Marilyn Denton

heather Jones - Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:20

I am doing some family tree research and wish to find out information about a family of Wilkie . George who was my 3x Great Grandfather was a master builder in Leven in the 1830's . He built houses at Links Place .numbers 3-6 I believe . also Bayview house and Myrtle House . 
On wishing to find out more can you tell me where best to advertise if any family members /desendants are around . he had a son also called george who made his way to Doncaster and became an accountant as dis his other son . Thanks Heather Jones Aberystwyth

Betty Cox - Thursday, 20 August 2015 14:21

Seeking information on Alexander Nairn c1835 who according to census was born in Cupar. He set up homw with Barbara errol from Ceres.

They eventually ended living in Greenock via Dunsee.

Alex parents were John Nairn and Elspeth Gray and Barbara's were James Errol and Barbara Grant.

jackie Welch - Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:41

I have hit a brick wall tracing the life of one of my great uncles. John Mundy (has been spelt Munday) married Kathleen or Catherine Martin in 1909. They married in Kirkcaldy but then lived in Dunfermline. Daughter Ruth was born in 1909. The family were in Dunfermline for 1911 census. Both John and Ruth seem to have disappeared. I can find no war record for John and no death record. I can find no marriage or death record for Ruth. However I have found a death record for John's wife. She died in Dunfermline poor house in 1917. She is described as wife of John Mundy, seaman. 

So what happened to John and his daughter Ruth.

Does anyone have any ideas. Are there any Mundy's or descendants still in the area


Paul Lyon - Wednesday, 19 August 2015 10:13

We are looking for information about a Adam Paterson, born about 1798 and married to Elizabeth. We have been told that there was a grave stone but it was put in storage for some reason.



Frances Black - Friday, 21 August 2015 13:15

What area Paul?


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DENISE RONALD - Monday, 17 August 2015 11:53

hi all    i am looking for decendents of the children of ALEXANDER RONALD AND MARGARET GLENNIE married in INVERURIE on 19/12/1868   they had 7 children.

leslie( WHO WE ARE ALL RELATED FROM )  , JANE  born 1868,  ALEXANDER born 1871 ,JOHN born 1873 , GEORGE born 1878  ,JEMIMA born 1881 AND  WILLIAM born 1884      some   of them are buried in the family plot in THE BASS ,INVERURIE.  We visit the grave and so do lots of relations of LESLIE RONALD. , but we have noticed that some other people(family) are putting flowers to and we would like to get in contact with all relations of the other six children . please email me at   thanks alot denise 

Sherri Sinclair - Sunday, 16 August 2015 20:40

Brick Walls:

David Simpson 1845-1902 - looking for source to prove dates of birth and death.  Cannot find on Scotland's People.  May have been born in Ayr but lived in Fife. Parents are William Simpson 1810-1855 and Agnes/Ann Paton 1816-1882.

Martha Perett/Perrit, first spouse of above David, married on 20 May 1867 in Dunfermline (proven).  Looking for source to prove dates/places of birth and death.  Cannot find on Scotland's People.  Parents are Robert Perret and Mary Reid (proven on marriage record). 

Mary Simpson, daughter of above David and Martha - b. 28 July 1868 (proven).  May have emigrated to Canada as this is where her husband, Thomas Sinclair, b. 02 Oct 1868 in Dunfermline (proven) died 22 Jan 1934 in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada (proven).  Looking for emigration/immigration source to prove migration to Canada and looking for death date and place.  Cannot find any death info for Scotland on Scotland's People. 

Jim Hendrick - Saturday, 15 August 2015 15:49

Jim Hendrick

I have been trying for a long time to find the parentage of

Charles Hendrick@Hetherwick@Hadderwick who married Katherine Sharp on 15th August 1794 in Burntisland. They were both incomers, but Katherine's father, William Sharp came from Kinglassie Parish. Can anyone help?

Karen - Thursday, 13 August 2015 05:31

Hi I am researching my Fife ancestors, in particular Baxters and Watsons who lived in  Dunino in the late 1700s/early 1800s. I have copies of baptism and marriage details from Scotpeople which say William Baxter was from Bridgend. Can anyone advise if Brigend was/is a property or a hamlet in Dunino?

Would also be interested to hear from anyone else who may be researching these families.

Many thanks


Harry D. Watson - Friday, 14 August 2015 13:40

I checked "The Place-Names of Fife", Volume 3, St. Andrews and the East Neuk.

There's an entry under Dunino parish for Bridgend, and it reads:

"The bridge in question is marked on the OS Pathf. as Stravithie Mill Bridge, and carries the St. Andrews to Anstruther road over the Cameron Burn."


Karen Tacey - Friday, 21 August 2015 03:52

Thank you Harry D. Watson - I've  had a look at this area on google maps and noted there are a few buildings which may or may not be where my ancestors resided but in any case I now have a feel for the area.

Noted your surname. Maybe we're distantly related.

 Thanks for your response.

cheers, Karen

Harry D. Watson - Wednesday, 26 August 2015 18:32

You wouldn't believe how common the name Watson is in Fife. My lot were fishermen and sailors and have lived for ever as far as I can see in the village of Cellardyke, parish of Kilrenny, but every village and parish in the area has its own Watsons, including Dunino, which is a tiny hamlet in a rural parish.


Adam Spence - Tuesday, 11 August 2015 20:42

Where would I find the copy of a will for a person who died in 1802? He was resident in Saline, Fife but died in Edinburgh. I have checked Scotlands People and the National Archives in Edinburgh, but I have not found his will. It is highly probable that he had made a will as he was a surgeon and was 77/78 years old when he died.

Debra Underwood - Friday, 07 August 2015 02:43

My grandmother Georgina Fleming McKenzie was born 17.1.1891 at Balcurvie Farm, Markinch.  Her parents were: John Mckenzie and Mary Nee Carnegie.  Mary her mother died 12.9. 1891 at Balcurvie eight months after my grandmother's birth.

I'm visiting Markinch 14-15th October, 2015r specifically to see the area. Can anyone tell me if Balcurvie farm still exists? Mary must be buried locally.

Many thanks.

Arlene LITTLE - Thursday, 06 August 2015 15:50
I have posted four family photographs on your Facebook page in the hope that somebody will recognise the people.  My grandmother, Mary Ann Hutchison nee Spittal b.1883 d.1961 is in the group photographs.  Her daughter, my mother, Rita Simpson b.1911 d.1994 is on the one dated 1936 she is standing behind her mother on the right.
My grandmother was from Leven, lived on Wagon Road and ran a little shop there. 
Should you require more information please e-mail me via the Fife Family History Society Secretary.
Many thanks,
Ron Simpson.
jackie welch - Thursday, 06 August 2015 12:39

my grandfather living in Dysart, and his brother ( not sure if he also lived in Dysart) had been  described as mattress makers. This would be around 1906

Does anyone know anything about this industry in the Dysart area.

Alistair Scott - Thursday, 06 August 2015 06:15

Looking for George and Elizabeth Scott

Further to my earlier post of 3 August 2015, Andrew Balfour and Elizabeth Scott are recorded as being married at Kilconquhar on 18 May 1838. Elizabeth is recorded in the marriage notice as "Elis'th of this parish". Confirmation of her parents and place of birth would then of course help me to identify these details for George Scott.

Any help and guidance is most welcome, as I continue this most enjoyable pursuit - from faraway Hobart in Tasmania.

Alistair Scott

walker crystal - Wednesday, 05 August 2015 06:40

im looking for any information on any sur name crystal (chrystal) in the area. my ancestors came from here in the 1860s but theres not much info on where they were before that. any info would be greatly appreciated.

Peter Sinclair Lawson - Tuesday, 04 August 2015 17:28

Can anyone advise as to how illigitame births were accepted by the Anstruther community and the church circa 1759.

It seems my ancestor Daniel Lawson was born 4 months after the marriage of his parents and baptised at church a few days later.

Mariage of parents Daniel LOWSON and Margaret Liddell on 15.08.1759 and Daniel LAWSON their first child born 06.12.1759. Plus slight variation in spelling of surname from LOWSON to LAWSON.

Also does anyone know whether the LOUSONE family name is another variation of LOWSON and LAWSON. As there seems to have been a large LOUSONE family in Anstruther circa 1690.

I would most sincerely appreciate any advice or opinion re the above.



Peter Sinclair Lawson

su - Monday, 03 August 2015 19:00

I forgot to add my email address on first post .


su - Monday, 03 August 2015 18:59


We are looking for any descendants  of the Spink families.  

Dr William Spink born abt 1748  studied at Edinburgh University then left to become Ships Surgeon with  East India Co on the Ships, then settled in Bombay where he had 3 children with local girl named as AnnDe Rozario.. or Nancy as a pet name, they had 3 sons, 2 lived Charles and William  who returned to Scotland as children to live with their Grandmother ( of Dr William Spink ) Lelias Ramsay's family .

That line of Spinks were predominantly Mariners in Scotland .

Charles died act  1815 Scotland

William died act 1820 in Scotland.


Ron and Jean Simpson - Monday, 03 August 2015 14:26

Would like some information on my great uncle Dewar Simpson born 27th November 1874. His parents were Robert Simpson and Margaret Hamilton.  Dewar married Jessie Fernie 25th February 1898 in Polmont Stirling.  They had a son Archilbald 1899- 1964 and Isabella b. 13th August 1904. Isabella appears on the 1911 Scotland census as Bella, a boarder in the home of John and Lucinda Simpson (my grandparents) and their children.  I cannot find Dewar and Jessie at all on the 1911 census.  Hope somebody out there can help us find out what happened to them.

Ron and Jean.

Alistair Scott - Monday, 03 August 2015 03:27

Looking for George and Elizabeth Scott

Hi, I'm looking for information about my gggf George and his sister Elizabeth. George arrived in Hobart, Tasmania, from Leith in January 1828, on the Greenock, but little is known of his background eg. birth date and parents. He is thought to have been born in 1804, but it could have been earlier. Soon after his arrival, George married Alice Churnside Burns, daughter of Capt John Burns of Leith.

I have been tracking George through his sister Elizabeth, about whom we know more. Elizabeth was born around 1811, and married Andrew Balfour of Pittenweem in Kilconquhar. Elizabeth and Andrew had a daughter Elizabeth at St Andrews in March 1839 before emigrating in 1840 to Tasmania where they joined George and Alice.

Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. My email address is,au



Cherylanne Bailey - Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:21


I post my WALLACE brickwall in the hope someone can shed some light or offer guidance.
My William WALLACE married an Elizabeth circa 1820 (no other details known)
and from this union William Wallace Jnr was born on 6 July 1828 at
Aberdour, Fife.  William Jnr married Jane HAXTON on 17 November 1854 at
Dalgety, Fife.
Has anyone come across these Williams in their research?  My searching
reveals that William Snr's parents could have been an Alexander WALLACE and
Margaret BEATSON but I am only guessing in relation to this.

Kind regards
Cherylanne, NSW Australia

Cherylanne Bailey - Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:17

Sorry in relation to my earlier post re SCOTT and KILGOURS in Fife, I forgot to add my email address.  Many thanks for your assistance.


Cherylanne, NSW Austrralia

Cherylanne Bailey - Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:14


Hello to all 

My 4x Great Grandfather was Peter SCOTT b. 1780 at Fife (died 28.4.1850 at Markinch, Fife) who married Elizabeth REID on 13 May 1810, possibly at Cults, Fife.

The family is found in the 1841 census as follows:

"1841 Scotland Census

County: Fife

Civil parish: Markinch

Parish Number: 447

ED: 1

Page:  5

Address: Kerkforther Fens (sic, according to spelling in 1851 census address, where is widowed wife is found, should read "Kirkforthar Feus")

Petter Scott,  Age 60 (b. abt 1781),  Occupation: Ind,  b. Fife, Scotland

Elizebeth Scott,  Age 45 (b. abt 1796),  b.  England

David Scott,  Age 30 (b. abt 1811),  Occupation: Tracker,  b.  England

Joseph Scott,  Age 18 (b. abt 1823),  b.  Fife, Scotland.

Their son James SCOTT b. 13 May 1819 at Cults, Fife married Margaret Burrell KILGOUR, b. 5 September 1831, Ch'd 3 October 1831  Portmoak, Kinross, on 17 April 1861 at Fife, Leslie, Scotland according to Banns of C/Scotland.

 In respect of my KILGOUR line, John KILGOUR married Margaret FLOCKAR (my 6x Great Grandmother Christened 5 October 1718) in Dysart, Fife, on 6 December 1743 at Dysart.

Their son Andrew KILGOUR born 16 May 1746 (christened 18 May 1746 at Dysart, Fife) married Nelly (Helen) AITKIN (AITKEN) (born 22 January 1755, christened 26 Jan 1755 at Abbotshall, Fife) on 27 July 1781 at Abbotshall.  This couple had children including David KILGOUR born 16 October 1800 at Auchterderran who married Margaret BURRELL (born 1803 at Auchterderran) on 17 June 1826 at Portmoak, Kinross and 26 June 1826 at Auchterderran.  They had children including Margaret Burrell Kilgour who married James SCOTT (as above).  These are my 3rd Great Grandparents!

 This is as far back as I have got with these lines.

 Does anyone on the list have these Fife ancestors in their line or can anyone on the list offer suggestions as to how to trace further back?  If so, I would love to hear from you.


Ronald MELDRUM - Thursday, 30 July 2015 04:43

                                         MELDRUM'S OF TORRYBURN

My greatGrandfather Robt Meldrum b1817 came to New Zealand in 1858 and I would love to be in contact with someone researching these Meldrum's.

George M b1767  m  Catherine Williamson 1791 Torryburn Fife

Mary b1989, John b1791, George b1792, Robert b1794, Janet Jane b 1796

John M b1791     m    Ann Law 1812 Dunfirmline, Fife

George b1813, James b1815,Robert b1817

any help in adding flesh to the bones would be great. Ron Meldrum NZ


Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 13:11

For those of you looking for Graveyards the following may be of help

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denise ronald - Monday, 27 July 2015 15:28

i have tried that web site and nothing comes up.     i know of 3 graveyards near leuchars.  1 leuchars churchyard,school lane   2 leuchars cemetry ,near st michaels golf club  and 3 vicardford cemetatry    please are there any more  thanks denise

denise ronald - Friday, 24 July 2015 12:01


Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 12:14

What is your Uncles name? It would probably be in Leuchars but there is also a few small graveyards as well.


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denise ronald - Monday, 27 July 2015 15:21

hi sorry i forgot to say  angus snith ronald  died 25th august 1916 at 6 weeks old  thanks again denise .

Cris Todd - Thursday, 23 July 2015 20:33

Hello, I am planning a trip to Fife in September 2015 to research William Todd b November 4, 1825 in Scotland (per death certificate in Oregon USA), his wife Jennett (AKA Janet) Proudfoot Todd b February 25, 1827 in Scotland (per death certificate in Oregon USA) and their son Alexander Todd b July 4, 1847 in Scotland (per death certificate in Missouri USA). William's US naturalization record (October 16, 1873 Jackson County, Missouri) says he is a "native of Fifeshire, Scotland."  Jennett's cemetery record indicates she was born in Dumfriesshire.  Using online resources I have not been able to locate any Scottish birth, marriage or census information that I can confirm for any of these ancestors.  However, I may have found passport records for William (#35577 June 3, 1856) and Janet (#35219 May 26, 1856). I would welcome any assistance anyone can give me as I am at a loss for where in Fife I should to do my research. Thanks so much.



Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 13:05

Contact our main Researcher Roddy - he may be able to help


Cris SIEBENLIST - Monday, 27 July 2015 13:22

Thanks so much Frances.

Douglas STEEDMAN - Tuesday, 28 July 2015 09:34

Hi, Cris, I am a FFHS member and  have a Tod in my tree so I looked into your Tods.

My suggestion to you is-- from Scotlands people buy  1851 census for William in Carnbee you will find exact matches for William and  Alexander and most likely other children. Agnes Hardy is the wife and mother of the children of William, suggest she and other children died because of the smallpox epidemic  of that time. So obtain Agnes's death record then Williams marriage record to Jane Proudfoot, I believe this will give you the true story of William and allow you to trace his parents. It may cost you about £20 GB [ worth it just for the documentation alone ]

Of course I cannot guarantee I am correct, but would be interested in Roddy's thoughts

 Regards Doug   

Cris SIEBENLIST - Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:24

Thanks for the tips Doug.  I have looked on Scotland's People before and not gotten very far. I will follow your suggestions.  This might also lead to some answers for another mystery.  William and Janet (Jennett) show up on US census and other records associated with Alexander born in 1847 (died in 1912 Missouri) and another Alexander born in 1849 (died in 1925 Oregon) both identified as their sons. I have suspected that one of them was probably a nephew adopted when something happened to one of William's brothers.  I would like to know which one was actually their son and who the parents of the other were.  Doug, are you related to William, also?


Thanks again Cris Todd Siebenlist

Douglas STEEDMAN - Friday, 31 July 2015 08:49

Cris , I am not related to William. my Tod's, 4x ggmother Elisabeth, I think from Dunfermline or Cupar or Falkland.

No other site will give the information you need. Scotland's People data is transposed  by other sites, LDS site is good for roughing out. Researching Scottish families on other sites, [ I suggest ], is a waste of time. 

Let us know how you get on, good luck.

Regards Doug. 

Cris SIEBENLIST - Monday, 03 August 2015 13:31


I have been doing quite a bit of research and Roddy has been very helpful to me.  I believe you are correct that Agnes Hardie is indeed the mother of my William's son Alexander. Thanks so much for the tip! I have found his birth information and at at the time of his birth Agnes and William were not married.  I haven't been able to locate any more information and wondered if you have seen info on Agnes's death or birth and William and Janet's marriage?  Good luck locating your Elisabeth Todd.


Cris Todd Siebenlist

doug steedman - Thursday, 06 August 2015 08:15


Use Scotland's people web site to prove---, Will & Agnes married - had other children, - that Agnes died 1852, - that will & Jane married 1853.

Use of original records is a must.


Cris SIEBENLIST - Friday, 07 August 2015 17:44


Using Scotland's People I haven't been able to find any of this additional information.  I will try, try again.



D Steedman - Tuesday, 11 August 2015 07:34

Cris, please contact me,

I understand your frustration ?


darran - Thursday, 23 July 2015 12:30

hello i am trying to find out the where abouts of scott paterson born in dumfermline on 3rd september 1958.i been told he may of died,please any information would be greatful

Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 12:15

Do you have his parents?


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denise ronald - Monday, 27 July 2015 15:36


Margaret Dore - Sunday, 19 July 2015 12:24





Christopher Wood - Friday, 17 July 2015 18:23

I would be grateful for any help in my attempt to establish a family relationship between Henry James Shoolbred (born in Manchester, 1838, to John Shoolbred from "Scotland" and Mary Bell Gullen) and John Shoolbred (born in Auchtermuchty, 30th November 1740 to John Shoolbred and Isobel Moffat), a prosperous merchant in London who died in 1801/2 and whose son James owned a plantation in South Carolina. 

Michelle Moseley - Saturday, 11 July 2015 06:44

Hi, new to this site and hoping someone may be able to help. I am researching the Peggie family, particularly Mary Peggie born abt 1812 who married George Coutts in 1834 in Dron. They moved to Victoria, Australia. Mary's parents are John Peggie and Margaret Corbett. Any info or advice appreciated.

elsie wilson - Friday, 10 July 2015 17:29


both born between 1875 - 1885 married Fyfe County - emigrated to Canada around 1900   

we are searching for family still in scotland 

CS - Friday, 10 July 2015 15:04

Does anyone have any information about my gg grandfather Henry Giles or his family? As far as I know he was a gardener and he died before 1874 - this information I found on his son Henry's (1853-1915) marriage certificate. Henry junior was born in Lochgelly, Fife about 1853  and his mother was Barbara Whyte (1828-1883) I know that Barbara married Daniel Mathieson 1856 at Lochgelly and she was a spinster when she married. I can't find Henry Snr on any Census etc so any information would be appreciated. Thank you.

CS - Friday, 21 August 2015 07:03

I'm still hoping that someone can shed some light on my GG Grandfather Henry Giles. I know nothing about him except he is named as my Grt Grandfather's (also Henry Giles) father on his marriage certificate. Henry junior was born about 1853 in Lochgelly - this information I found on census. Does anyone have any leads for the surname Giles in the Fife area or any other information on the Giles family. Thank you.. 

Dawn Christenson - Sunday, 05 July 2015 19:44


I found my 4th great grandparent's marriage records from Dalgerty on   Their names were John Paton and Lillias Duncan.  I do have the names of Lilly's parents who were David Duncan & Isabel Kirkaldy.  I belive David Duncan was from Largo.

I am trying to find out who John Paton's parents were.   I have only found the index to the marriage of John and Lillias, but not the original.   Would there be his parent's names - at least his father's on the record?

Any suggestions would be great.

Thank you,


Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 12:22

Hi Dawn

As I presume this was pre 1855 it is very doubtful if parents names would be on the marriage record. You can check on Scotland's People website


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Alison Butcher - Thursday, 02 July 2015 19:46

MATHERS of St Monans

Any descendants of William Mathers (1789-1851) and his wife Christian Lowrie may be interested to know that a Facebook group has been set up for us to share information and photos easily.  There are members from UK and Australia.  It is a closed group but please request to join if interested.  You will find it by searching for Descendants of William Mathers.  If you are a Mathers originally from St Monans and the name Chapman Mathers is in the family it it likely you are one of their descendants.

Elaine McKenna - Thursday, 02 July 2015 11:52

My father left Fife at the age of eight with his parents to come to Australia so I imagine  there would be still a lot of people related to the family still living there.  The families last known address was Newmills/ Torryburn.

My great grandmother's name on my father's maternal side is Catherine Hogg Smith.  Catherine married a Robert Baxter and one of their children was my Nanna, Jane Ross Baxter.  Jane Ross married Patrick McKenna.  His parents were Jessica and Michael McKenna


Fingers crossed as I would love to meet some of my Scots rellies

Karen Darby - Thursday, 02 July 2015 11:26

Hi I am searching for the family of Robert Ogilvie/Ogilby, He married Mary Rae in Ceres Fife on Jan 28 1777. 

The marriage record is indexed on

but I was hoping someone may be able to help me find out who Robert's parents are and when he was born.

According to his daughter Jean's marriage record in 1799 to John Forrester, Robert was a brewer in the parish of Ceres.

Thank you 

Dave Donatelli - Thursday, 02 July 2015 08:45

I just wanted to let everyone know that I have a photo album from WW1. Tommy Byers the man that gave me his photo collection was in the 6th and 9th Battalion of the Black Watch Royal Highlanders Territorial force. Tommy collected and took photos before, during and after the war. Most of the photos are named and dated from 1909 through to 1922. I was wondering if anyone has any military information on Major Henry Francis Farquharson Murray. I have some photos of him in my photo album but not much more than that. He was in the 9th Battalion Black Watch Royal Highlanders at the same time as Tommy Byers. Tommy Byers service number was 2122 as a private. I have many more photos of the Black Watch and I am interested in doing as much research an them as possible. if anyone can help please let me know. Thanks in advance.  

Frances Black - Monday, 27 July 2015 12:25

Have you been in touch with the Black Watch Museum in Perth. Their Archivist Richard may be able to help.


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jackie welch - Wednesday, 01 July 2015 19:14

Is there anyone with the surname Mundy (or Munday) still in Dysart or Kirkcaldy.

Michael and Elizabeth Mundy (my great grandparents ) came to Dysart in 1891. They lived in Nether Street and later moved to Hill Street. They had 9 children, some of which may have stayed in the area.

Mary married and moved to Edinburgh. Married name Adams

Stephen  I have found nothing about him

John I have found nothing

Elizabeth, never married. Died in Edinburgh. Described as Hospital Matron, retired

Albert I have found nothing

Michael  married Dysart girl who died in 1918. moved to Glasgow with 2 young sons, left young daughter in Dysart 

Bernard  In navy in 1901, but can find nothing more except was witness to brother Michael wedding in 1906

Howard, died 1918 I think unmarried

Kathleen  died as child

any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

Ann O'Loughlin - Sunday, 28 June 2015 06:22

Hi I am looking for a death or any information about William Robertson of the Royal Navy.  When his daughter Agnes married John Fairnie 8 Feb 1798 both were of the parish of St Andrews and her father William was deceased.  John Fairnie was a tidewaiter and originally from Inveresk/Musselburgh.  Looking for any family of William, his wife and children, siblings of Agnes.  

Thank you I live in Australia


John P Douglas - Saturday, 27 June 2015 10:08

Help!?  I'm researching the Douglas's of Dairsie. the line thus far is myself, John paul Douglas, my father, John Noel Patrick Douglas, his father, James Robert, born Dairsie 1874, his father Rev James Struthers Douglas, born Dairsie 1817, his father John D born Dairsie 1779 (Blacksmith?) and HIS father, another John Douglas, but no data.

If anyone can point me in a postive direction, I'd be very thankful.




Paul SMITH - Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:29

I am researching my SMITH family from Logie. I started about 10 years ago but cannot find details about my 4x GG Robert Smith. I have all the details about his son William Smith's birth in Cupar from 1806 onwards including his children, right through to my father. Robert Smith was married to Helen Lyall from Leuchars in 1805. She is the daughter of William Lyall and Helen Black. Helen Lyall appears in the 1851 Census of Dairsie as a widow - so Robert died before then obviously. Helen is living with her sister Elspeth Paton (nee Lyall) and her son William Paton. William appears in the 1861 Census for Logie as living with Helen's son William Smith (above). Helen is listed as a wheel spinner. Helen died in 1861 at Dairsie Muir. Her death records say that she was the widow of Robert Smith - a Cotton Manufacturer - and Helen was a Wool Spinner. Helen's son William died in Balmullo in 1882 but his death record says that father Robert Smith was a Joiner. In the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census records William is listed as a Joiner, Carpenter, or Wright, He appeared in the Logie Parish Records in 1863 (?) as a joiner. Also, his mother on his death record is listed as Elspeth Lyall - Helen's sister. The informant was William's son Thomas, but Thomas was born after his grandfather Robert had died - so probably never knew much about him. In all available Census records from 1841 through to Helen's death she was never shown as living with her son William or his family. Also William would appear to be the only son from Robert and Helen's marriage - as far as I know. Can any one help me find my Robert Smith and any of his ancestors? Thanks.


Vanessa - Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:53

I am researching my WILSON family tree.  My great, great grandfather was James Wilson born 1795 married to Isabella Hutton.  I have been to Rosyth old church grave yard and found the gravestone which confirms this.  Many of the gravestones with wilson on them are very old and difficult to read.  If anyone has any information I would be very grateful. 

andrew campbell - Saturday, 27 June 2015 09:52

Fife Family History Society has published (and still available; visit Publications) Rosyth Old Churchyard Lairs, which transcribed the older stones in the Churchyard, with notes on the Lairs and who owned them, based on Lair records now divided between Dunfermline Central Library and Fife Council Archives; the latter has a Survey of the stones in the Churchyard done in 1880

Leanne Guymer - Saturday, 13 June 2015 13:15

I am a fifth generation Robertson living in Canberra Aus. My 3 greats grandfather Andrew Robertson and wife Helen Hain came to Melbourne on the Greyhound in 1863. Recent research seems to indicate that Andrew's parents were William Robertson (Carnbee) and Margaret Grieve. This research also suggests Andrew's siblings were John (baptised 6/5/1810), Robert (14/12/1812) Janet (21/7/1814). All these births including Andrews were registered in Crail. I am wondering if there is anyone researching this Robertson family, particularly members of the family that remained in Scotland?  It would be wonderful if we could learn more about what happened to both the Scottish and Australian families.

 Leanne Guymer

Harry D. Watson - Monday, 15 June 2015 18:09

Wm. Robertson and Margaret Grieve were married on 23rd February 1805 at Crail. You can find out a lot about them from Scotlandspeople. Their children were James(1806), William(1808), John(1810), Robert(1812), Janet(1814) and Andrew(1816 and 1818 - the first one must have died).

I hope you have inherited a lot of genes from William and Margaret, as they were a sturdy pair who lived to a ripe old age, into the era of death-certificates. William Robertson, master shoemaker, died in 1858, aged 86, at Marketgate (South Side) in Crail. His parents were James Robertson, shoemaker, and Janet Flewcart, which is a funny spelling of Flockhart or Flucker (both spellings still found here). William was married, wife's name not given.

I wasn't sure that I had found the right Wm. Robertson for you at this point, but then I found the death-certificate of Margaret Robertson or Grieve, "shoemaker's widow", who died in 1860, aged 76, at Marketgate (South Side) in Crail. Her parents were William Grieve, "weaver  & c.", and - Ross. The certificate gives you the very useful further information that William Grieve was a weaver etc. in Falkland and, I think, Pathhead (it's difficult to read). So he was probably wasn't related to the various Grieve families in and around Crail, including mine in neighbouring Kilrenny parish.

I was born in the Nethergate in Crail, but the Marketgate is probably my favourite street anywhere - a broad tree-lined thoroughfare, with Crail's market cross,where markets used to be held.


leanne guymer - Thursday, 23 July 2015 16:00

Dear Harry, so sorry not to have seen this response earlier as it arrived after we left Aus and we have been travelling in other areas of Europe since 15 June and have only just seen your chat page response.

I really appreciate all the advice you have provided. My only problem is that it seems to add more confusion to the Robertson puzzle. One of our problems is that our Robert and Andrew Robertson, born to parents, William and Margaret, give Carnbee as their birthplace in the 1861 Census Records. However the parish records for their births state Crail as the birthplace.  

After doing further research I am now wondering if there were two families William and Margaret Robertson registering births for their children in the parish of Crail in the period 1805 - 1820? From our searching of Scotlands People, the children of the one or two families we have found are WIlliam, James, John, Robert, Janet, 2 x Andrew (1816 & 1818) Margaret (1819)

Whilst I would like to think our Andrew comes from the family of William and Margaret Grieve, it seems unlikely that all of the children we have located in our research belong to William and Margaret.

Sadly we were recently in Cupar and spent time in the area looking at cemetaries trying to find clues to family etc. We also called at the Cupar Library but found they were shut on our second visit - public holidays can sometimes be a nuisance for researchers!

We would like to keep working with you on the puzzle and hope you might be able to help us with your  local knowledge to clear up the confusions.

We are currently in Campbelltown on Kintyre heading soon towards Durham and south. If you could email me your phone no. I could contact you before we leave for Aus.

Many thanks

Leanne Guymer

Leanne Guymer - Sunday, 26 July 2015 16:24

Hi Harry,

Thanks for your response, it is very much appreciated. I am very sorry that I have nt responded but I have been traveling since we posted the original message and have not had a chance to check the message board until 2 days ago.   

I have looked at your response and recognise youre references to the children of William and Margaret Robertson. In my research I had found the same children you listed. However I also found a Margaret born to a William and Margaret Robertson in 1819. My concern now is whether there are one or two families with the names William and Margaret Robertson registering births in Crail at that time.

Some confusion also arises from information we found in the 1861 census record for Andrew Robertson where he states his birthplace was Carnbee. Robert, who we believe is brother also states his birthplace as Carnbee. I am not sure how this fits with the Crail registrations.

We are still travelling in Scotland for another 2 weeks and our opportunities to do online research remain limited. However I would like to continue the discussion as your local knowledge would be extremely helpful. If it is more convenient perhaps I could continue the discussion maybe via phone if you are able to email us a phone or email contact. Thanks for all your help to date. Leanne Guymer


Natalie - Sunday, 07 June 2015 23:20

Hi.  Looking for some help with the McBain family please:  

My ancestor David McBain (born abt 1832) was married in Melbourne, Australia in 1854 to Janet Milne from Crossgates / Dalgety.  I cannot find anything to link David McBain back to Fife.  Their marriage certificate lists them both as being fro Kirkcaldy.  David's occupation was a sailor.  His parents are listed as David and Janet McBain. Father's occupation soilder.

I have tried all of the usual avenues - Scotland's people, Ancestry, Family Search and Find My Past.  Cannot find any BDM or census records that fit.  Cannot even find immigration records!

Am looking for anyone with a connection to the McBain family or suggestions on any other avenues I could explore please.

Will be in Scotland in August so will hopefully have the opportunity to investigate local records that are not available online.  

All suggestions welcome!!

Thank you


angelica - Saturday, 08 August 2015 04:09

Have you tried searching for Bain? I ended up having a Fife ancestor with the Bain Surname.

Margaret Mckirdy - Friday, 05 June 2015 06:29

I'm looking for descendants of Robert Gordon (b.1898)and his wife Jeanie Robertson Wishart Leitch!  His siblings were Jeanie Huchinson Gordon (George Finlay Ferguson), Elizabeth (Bessie) Corrigan Gordon, (George Berwick) (who was a butcher), George Nisbet Gordon, (Ellan Agnes Duffy), Frank Gordon, (Annie Honeyman Lister), John Gordon.  They lived in Cardenden, Auchterderran and lochgelly. 


Carol King - Friday, 05 June 2015 00:24
I'm searching for gravestones of the people named below. (and their families)
Can anyone help or offer suggestions of where best to look?


Annie Clarke PEGGIE  (twice married: 1st CAMPBELL - 2nd RICHARDS) died 1923 in Dunfermline

Annie Bell BLACK (married name PEGGIE) died 1924 in Fife

Lily BLACK died 1936 in Fife

Thomas PEGGIE died 1910 in Fife

Matthew PEGGIE died 1941 (Dunfermline)

Margaret GRAY d 1935 (Dunfermline)

Matthew GRAY died 1901 (Fife)

Clark BLACK died 1905 (Fife)

Christina CLARK (married name CAMPBELL) - dk date of death


Many thanks for taking the time to read this message.