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Sharon Lorenzelli - Thursday, 08 May 2014 10:50

I'm trying to find my great, great,great grandfather and his family. The information I have is his name is James Knox, born abt 1821, Fifeshire, Scotland. His father is listed on his marriage certificate as William Knox occupation Cooper. James was a Mariner - noted also as Boatswain's Mate. A family name that comes up often is Agnes - this could be a clue to his mother's name. He married in 1855 when I found him as marrying Hannah Suffield from Stepney and they lived in Limestone and later he worked in the dockyards. I would love to be able to trace my Scottish ancestry and would value any input. There is a James Knox born Burntisland but his father was a Baker and I have been told that if you had a trade you stayed in that line of work - so therefore I have ruled out this lead. Thankyou for the opportunity to post this message.

Jane Marshall - Wednesday, 07 May 2014 19:22

I have recently visited Falkland, Fife in the hope of gathering information about my ancestors.  The WHITES, they lived at Rotten Row, Balmblae and were weavers.  I have found some information from Scotland People and found a grave stone for William White and some of this family.  William White was my grandfathers brother.  Many people of Falkland were very helpful in my search.  Has  anyone got any more info or are you a White who had ancestors in Falkland. 

robert mackinnon - Tuesday, 06 May 2014 01:58

please help me find a part of my past. Kirkcaldy, names david james mackinnon married bridget casey of Kirkcaldy abt.1872 had a son angus lloyd mackinnon born march 9 1892 they all came to canada and angus lloyd mackinnon married mary elizabeth turner her family is from bradford yorkshire England. but its my scottish roots im most interested in. would like any leads to either families thank you people of Kirkcaldy. in your debt robert mac kinnon.

robert mackinnon - Thursday, 29 May 2014 08:28

have since learned both david mckinnon 1857 & bridget casey/mckinnon 1858 ireland are buried in the mckinnon family lot in bennochy cemetery. they had many children that grew ip in and around Kirkcaldy and Paisley David was the 1st labour councillor in Kirkcaldy im told. it would be nice to hear some of the details of their lives & passing. thanks again Robert. ps my grandfather is angus lloyd mckinnon 1892 dundee, forfarshire.

Hayley Forsyth - Friday, 02 May 2014 15:34

Im looking for any information on my distant relatives ebelived to be from the fife area.

James forsyth born approx 1740 who married Agnes braid born 1736, they had john forsyth born august 8th 1771 possibly in Inverkiething, who married  helen faicheny born 1779. they had James fitzclarence masterton forsyth born inverkiething around 1815 and died in 1863 in Torryburn, fife. He married Janet Brimer of Torryburn 1821.

they had James 1825 born in Torryburn (my great great grandfather) who married isabella Grieves. James has Peter Forsyth b 1886 born in Kelso.

I dont know these areas of scotland and wonder if they are close to each other and if we have any living relatives still in Scotland? Peter had a sister Nellie b 1890 and possibly isabella, james and janet forsyth too.

It looks like their mother died and Peter and nellie are on a census as living with james their father and another lady. Peter came to England, Hartlepool and married and hence we are in Hartlepool now.

Is their any groups in these areas where i could visist or is the local libary the best place for records? who knows if they were married in parish churchs or registry officers?


thanks for any advice. Hayley Forsyth

Alison - Tuesday, 06 May 2014 10:12

Alison - Tuesday, 06 May 2014 10:19

Hi, try the link I posted above, you will have to copy paste it. Inverkeithing is near to Torryburn in Fife. You don't mention if you are new to genealogy? Have you been on or We have a resource at the Family History Room at Methil Library which is along the coast from Inverkeithing. There are also libraries in Fife that have access to records, books, almanacs etc. If you email me at I will try and help. We do not undertake research but could perhaps guide you in the right direction. Alison (Committee Member FFHS)

Christine Smith - Tuesday, 29 April 2014 18:41

Hello Jim

I don't know if this is any interest to you, but the book 'Victorian Scotland' published by RCAHMS contains a few photograghs of people connected with the St Fort estate. (Formal group portrait of servants, guests at the estate) Though living in Fife I had never heard of St Fort or where it was till reading the book.

I know it doesn't answer your questions, but thought I'd pass on the information anyway.

Christine Smith.

Jim Walker - Wednesday, 07 May 2014 16:58

Mrs. Smith:


Thank you very much for taking the time to write. I will research the book you suggest, thank you. This family, it's origins in Scotland and where everyone went is a complete mystery.


Every bit helps, and you are very kind to help.


Thank you for your time and efforts.




jim Walker

Jim Walker - Monday, 28 April 2014 22:36


I hope everyone is healthy and happy!!!

Might anyone have ANY information on the Walkers of ST Fort, Fife please?

There were 4 generations of Walker Barons on the St Fort estate, rumors of a burial crypt on the estate, a Holy Well, etc.

Any help or referrals or maps, burial places, etc would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you for your kindness.


Reverend Jim Walker and family 

Elaine Brown - Sunday, 27 April 2014 10:53

I am looking for information on Messrs Charles Jackson & Sons, Falkland, Fife, who I believe were linen and floor cloth manufacturers.  My husbands grandfather (Albert Elliott, born 1898) was placed in a children's home in Kent but in 1913, Albert and another boy(Herbert Smith) were discharged to Messrs Jacksons. I am trying to find any records which might relate to the employment of Albert and to find out how/why he left Scotland to enlist in the Army in Wales.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Many thanks


Tim Sargeant - Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:40

To Elaine brown;

Do you know which childrens home in Kent your relative was sent to?

We have connection to Fegans Homes for Boys at Goudhurst. They had their annual re-union here on Monday. Please respond to my email;

I may not re-visit this site for a while.


To anyone else;

Any info on Isobel Walker from Pittenweem who married William Laing of Craigover (farm) Newton, Midlothian circa 1750s. Buried Newton Kirkyard.

Thank You.

Jeanne O'Neill - Sunday, 27 April 2014 06:57

Johanna Finlayson / James Morton Kirkcaldy Fife Scotland

Johanna ( Johan Joan )Finlayson( Finlay Finlison) born ? Dysart 1798 -1802 married James Morton and resided in Kirkcaldy.They married on the 27th October 1821 in Kinghorn Fife Scotland.

I believe they had James 28/4/1822,John 1/2/1824,Andrew 20/11/1825, Anne 27/2/1829, Isabelle 24/4/1832,William 1/4/1834,Robert P 1836 , David 1839,Henry 1841 although there may be some errors here.

I would love to hear from anyone connected or with information particularly on Johanna. They lived in High st Kirkcaldy 1841 Census and at 129 Links st Kirkcaldy in 1891 census.

I look forward to hearing from anyone with information. I have information on the Mortons in Australia I am happy to share


Jeanne Australia

Marshall Family, Kirkcaldy / Fife - Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:36

I am trying to trace the Marshall family who lived round the Kirkcaldy, Dysart and Kingskettle area. John Marshall married to Helen Hume, then his son William Hume Marshall married to Davina Barclay Brodie, married July 1896, and then my grandfather James Hume Marshall born Milnathort in 1896. James Marshall and his wife Amelia Finnie moved from Kirkcaldy where they lived at 27 Harriet Street to Station House, Kingskettle where he worked for the railway.

Any help appreciated.



David Houston - Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:45

Hi Jo I can help you as I descend from Helen Hume also via her second marriage to James Houston


Please email and I can share what I know with you



Colin McKay - Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:59

Hello, I am trying to locate a marriage certificate. I have not been able locate it via Scotland's National site but wondering if there is perhaps an alternative,more localized way. John McDonald married Elizabeth Wood in Kinghorne, Fife on May 11 1868. I know this because this date is consistently written on their children's birth registers. I thank you for your time. 


Mari Becker - Monday, 09 June 2014 09:33

Colin, there's a marriage of those two individuals registered in 1860 in Aberdeen.  Is it possible they got married later than declared on birth certs (to give legitimacy maybe?).  Do you know their parents names?



Lesley Norton - Wednesday, 23 April 2014 10:09

JAMES ROBERTSON  My Great Grandfather was born in Kirkcaldy.  According to the family bible his birth date was 22 March 1839.  The next record I have of him was his marriage to Margaret Marshall in Monaghan Northern Ireland on 28 March 1878.  He was shown as a widower and his father as James Robertson a Mechanic.  My Great Grandfather died in Ireland in 1887.  His occupation descriptions varied and  included Iron Fitter and Mill Owner.  I haven't been able to trace a birth record.  I am visiting Kirkcaldy next week and will visit the Library.  However, in the meantime, I wondered if anyone had any suggestions to aid me in my search.

Alison - Tuesday, 06 May 2014 10:33 This link may be of some interest. Civil registration of BMD's did not start till 1855.

George - Wednesday, 23 April 2014 08:24


My grandmother's sister, Jane Nisbet Houston nee Stewart, was the wife of the minister Archibald McNeill Houston (AMH), from 1889 to his death in 1933. I am trying to obtain copies of the photographic plates which appeared in the book "Aucterderran Fife - A Parish History" written by AMH. Also if anybody has a special interest in the history of Aucterderran over the period of AMH's ministry, then I would be pleased to hear from them.

Carol Ward - Friday, 18 April 2014 09:43

I am trying to trace my ancestors called Jaap, but there are a number of variants. Jhone Jope, Jape, Jap I have traced them back to 1598 through Scotland's people and the Mormon pioneers. so far they have come from Montrose, Cupar, Collessie and Dunfermline And ended up in Bothwell. Does anyone have any info that they can pass on or point me in the right direction regarding cemeteries And headstones. I live in Spain so need to have something to fly over to Scotland to see and research. Thank you in anticipation

Heather Wade - Friday, 18 April 2014 04:54

Arthur Smith was a ships captain who lived in Leith during his seafaring days, then lived in Kinghorn from about 1852 until his death in 1864.

Arthur was born in Kingsbarns in 1790 but his siblings, Rachel born 1795 and James born 1798 were born in Kinghorn.    Their parents were James Smith, a cooper, and Margaret Thomson.

Are there any suggestions as to where I could find out more information on the family?

Kind regards


Mary Taylor - Thursday, 17 April 2014 15:05


I have traced my G,G,G,G,Grandfather back to being the school master at Boarhills in 1830.  It states this on his marriage record (to Elizabeth Miller), both of the parish of St Andrews and St Leonards.

Does anyone know where I may be able to find information about that specific school at this time or about the general role of a school master in Fife at that time?

Thank you


Karen Lord - Tuesday, 08 April 2014 12:21

I am trying to trace the war records of my grandfather Walter Henderson b  16.11.1895 and my great grandfather Robert Andrew Henderson b 28.6.1864 both from Kirkcaldy. As both are very common names, I am not getting very far. Any suggestions?

Frances Black - Friday, 11 April 2014 16:34

Try Kirkcaldy Library - Address: Library, Museum And Art Gallery , Abbotshall Road, Kirkcaldy, KY1 1YG 

Telephone: 01592 583206

Someone should be able to help you.



jocelyn - Wednesday, 02 April 2014 01:19


I am looking for information on two families from Fife. Any assistance anyone can provide would be appreciated.


1) Andrew Ilson (b.1781 in Cults, Fife, Scotland) and his wife Helen Henderson (married 1799). Andrew's baptismal record spells his surname as Ilson and his marriage record recorded the surname as Neilson. It seems that the spelling of the family's surname evolved from various forms of Ilson to eventually settling on Neilson. Helen's parents were Andrew Henderson and ? Small. They had at least nine children. I am searching for Andrew's date of death. Catherine died in Kettle in 1861 so it is possible that Andrew also died there.


2) Andrew's parents: James Ilson & Catherine Scot. James & Catherine also had at least nine children and lived in Cults. There were married in 1777. I am searching for birth and death records for both James & Catherine.


Any help or direction that anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.


Shirley Bulley - Tuesday, 24 June 2014 09:43

Hi Jocelyn - I read your post regarding Andrew Neilson and family with much interest.   I am in the same position as you are - can't find his date of death.   Have searched on Scotlands People without success, and the problem is that when you do find a death that might be the one, there is no other supporting information, ie next of kin, etc.  I did find one in Stirlingshire, which is not too far from Fifeshire, but when I checked the Wills I found he was a farmer, not a linen hand loom weaver.   He must have died somewhere between 1841 and 1851, as he appears in the former census with his wife, and son I think, but not in the 1851 census.   If you do get any information from anyone else, would you mind passing it on?

Shirley - South Australia

John Bugg - Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:03


I am looking for two families

The First is ROBERT REID (1808-1855) He and his family lived in High Street Leven till 1854  when he and his family travelled to Australia. My wife is his great grand daughter.

The second is WILLIAM MENTIPLAY (1808-1875) of West Shore Pittenweim. He travelled to Australia about 1855. My Mother was a Mentiplay

I plan to visit Scotland in September and am seeking any links that may help in the journey. I have considerable details of their life since arriving in the colonies which inwo9uld be pleased to share

John Bugg

Janice Ortmann - Monday, 31 March 2014 22:40

Hi, Good luck with your search both places are as you know near each other and not very big towns they may have a local Facebook site if you put a posting on you may get some response  from a distant relative doing research independently or a local history society often has like minded folks. Census records for these areas are held in Dunfermline Carnegie Library also Kirkcaldy and Methil maybe Leven has them too, and with them being wee places it doesn't take long to scroll through to find addresses 

Enjoy your time in Fife 


Harry WATSON - Thursday, 03 April 2014 10:51

Hello John. The William Mentiplay born in 1808 was born in the hamlet of Arncroach in Carnbee parish to William Mentiplay and Isabel Dick, who had 9 children and many descendants. Have you had any contact with Dr. (David) Ross Mentiplay in Nunawading, Vic., Australia? I received a lot of information about the Mentiplays from him about 20 years ago, and I would say he was the leading expert on the family.

Mentiplay is an old name in the East Neuk of Fife and is supposed to be a variant of Monypenny, the name of an aristocratic family who lived for centuries at Pitmilly near St. Andrews.

Harry Watson


Marg. Mansfield - Saturday, 19 July 2014 05:33

 of King StreetHi John,

A long shot but we are searching for descendants of William Reid, Banker and Ann Bruce Kidd of Melbourne. Ann was the daughter of Thomas Kidd, Accountant and Elizabeth Gourlay of 'Athol'; Thomas was the son of Robert Kidd, Builder and Janet Robertson of King Street, who immigrated with their two surviving children from Fife on the Marchioness of Douglas. Robert's parents Thomas Kidd, Baker and Margaret Anderson lived in Colinsburgh but were buried 1843 and 1845 in Newburn churchyard.

Several other descendants of Thomas and Margaret are interested in finding living descendants of Robert and Janet before October when we will be visiting Scot's Church and other sites relating to the family.

Marg. nee Kidd Western Australia

Kelly Grieve - Monday, 24 March 2014 11:20

I will fulfill a life-long dream to visit Wemyss in June, 2014 and visit other places where my ancestors lived in Fife.  In 1841, my great, great grandfather lived in "Wemyss" on High Street, Wemyss.  It doesn't say "east" or "west"  Peter & Agness Greive.  (1841 Scotland Census, roll 1042704, page 36).  I have consulted,  without success, old maps in combination with the actual census sheet trying to figure out exactly where they might have lived.  My ancestors who left for the US were all coal miners.  This Grieve family left in February, 1851 before the census was conducted.  Please reply to


Wilma Sinclair - Wednesday, 19 March 2014 12:25

Hi. I am a new member and I was wondering if anyone can help with this. My Great Grandfather George Menzies was Chancellor of the Ancient Society of Gardeners in Dunfermline in 1888 would there be any photos of this. 

Ali - Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:40

Hi, there are several results on google.  Here is a link below to a site which shares digital images.

Judi ALEXANDER - Wednesday, 19 March 2014 00:41


Hello, wondering if anyone can help?  I am researching  

Thomas LINDSAY, b. c.1821 Fifeshire, Scotland (it just says Fife on marriage entry) married Mary BUTLER (b. c.1819, Ireland), Parish of St. James, Melbourne, Australia on 5 April 1842 - haven’t found him on the shipping list and don’t think he was a convict

He died on 16 June 1896, Majors Line, near Heathcote, Vic. (lived 55 years in Victoria)   

children were:  

James, b.1843, Melbourne, d. 1 July 1848

Unnamed infant, b. c.1845, Melbourne

Catherine, b. 1847, Melbourne

Thomas, b. c.1851, Melbourne

Robert, b. c.1852, Melbourne 


Catherine’s children were (in case the Scottish Naming Pattern was followed):


Mary Ann


Sarah Ann

Margaret Ellen


Would appreciate any assistance, thanks,

Judi Alexander


Janet Fyfe - Saturday, 03 May 2014 17:04

Have you tried checking the FamilySearch website? There are a number of Thomas Lindsay's listed for Fife between 1820-1825. There is a Thomas born to James in 1821 in Kilrenny. Difficult to know though whether this is your Thomas without further clues.

Harry D. Watson - Wednesday, 11 June 2014 07:50

The Thomas Lindsay born in 1821 at Kilrenny married a Euphemia Mackie, so he's not the one.


Linda Kaden - Thursday, 13 March 2014 13:42

DNA proves my ancestor ALEXANDER LAWRIE (various spellings) is a descendant of the Lawries of Drunzie in Kinross. He was born sometime between 1775 and 1881 but I have not been able to positively identify his parents. Various stories about his roots suggest he was born in Fife and was trained in Land Management with particular knowledge about tree planting. By 1804 he was overseer of Lanfine Estate in Ayrshire. The 1841 census states he was not born in Ayrshire. Following the Scottish naming pattern births of his children suggest his parents could be John Lawrie and Elizabeth.

A John Lawrie and Elizabeth Cook had a male child baptised 3 February 1775 at Collessie but is not named in the register. This couple had at least 2 other children, Elizabeth and Bruce.

I am interested in any Lawrie/ Laurie/ Lowrie/ Laury/Lawry family in Fife between 1750 and 1800 in order to prove a connection or to eliminate them from my search.

Debbie - Tuesday, 11 March 2014 22:46

Hello, looking for info on my great great grandfather, Mathew Wallace, born abt. 1821 in Scotland.  Daughter's death certificate says we was from "Auberlein".  Could this be Aberlyn in Fife?  Mathew was married to Margaret Carr abt. 1841 and moved to US in Missouri about 1847.  Any info appreciated!

Peter BOYLAN - Monday, 10 March 2014 14:32

I am new to the Society and this is my first post. I am hoping that someone will be able to give me a pointer to develop my knowledge of my Great Grandfather - Michael Joseph BOYLAND. He was born in Ireland around 1850 but at some stage crossed to Scotland where on the 1st June 1876 at Pathhead Manse, Dysart he married Mary Anderson. The couple lived in Birrell St and Wemyss Close between 1876 and 1880 when the family moved to Manchester. From 1880 I have found plenty of information on him but  cannot find anything before 1876. I know that his parents were Michael Joseph Boyland and Helen Green, but I can only presume they stayed in Ireland as I cannot as yet find any trace of them in Scotland. Be grateful for knowledge of any records which could provide further info.

Many thanks

Peter Boylan Mem 2169


Ali - Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:46

Hi, have you tried searching with variations on the surname? there are quite a few variations. 

Judy Bright - Sunday, 09 March 2014 10:39

I am trying to find out more about my great grandmother Elvine (Elsie) Rosa Elise Roux (b. ? Lausanne Vaud Switzerland) who married James Graham Robertson on 2nd May 1905 in Edinburgh. Lived in Saline at Rose View and Loch House before immigrating to Australia on 11th January 1912 on the ship called Rangatira with their children my grandmother Jessie and her brother William and sister Rose mary. The family settled in Melbourne where they lived and both James and Elvine are buried at Jamieson Cemetry, Victoria Australia. The census of 1901 and 1911 give Elvine's birthplace as Switzerland (French Subject) and only know roughly her age as of 1905 as 27 years old. Any information would be greatfully appreciated.

Many thanks